{"id":18035,"date":"2025-01-31T18:01:28","date_gmt":"2025-01-31T17:01:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/?p=18035"},"modified":"2025-02-01T17:28:39","modified_gmt":"2025-02-01T16:28:39","slug":"deepseek-et-la-place-tiananmen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/index.php\/2025\/01\/31\/deepseek-et-la-place-tiananmen\/","title":{"rendered":"DeepSeek et la place Tiananmen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>Alon Mizrahi, 31 janvier 2025.<\/strong> <span lang=\"fr-FR\">A moins que vous n&rsquo;ayez dormi au fond des bois, vous n&rsquo;avez pas pu manquer le lancement de DeepSeek, la premi\u00e8re IA de Chine (si vous avez dormi au fond des bois, beaucoup vous envient, j&rsquo;ose dire ; ce n&rsquo;est pas facile d&rsquo;\u00eatre \u00e9veill\u00e9 actuellement).<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_18037\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2003.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18037\" class=\"wp-image-18037 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2003-700x420.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2003-700x420.jpg 700w, https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2003-300x180.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2003-768x461.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2003.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-18037\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em><strong>2003, Deuxi\u00e8me Intifada en Palestine occup\u00e9e (photo AFP)<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span lang=\"fr-FR\">Comme on pouvait s&rsquo;y attendre, la premi\u00e8re chose que l&rsquo;Occident a faite en r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 la perc\u00e9e chinoise, qui a d\u00e9tr\u00f4n\u00e9 sans m\u00e9nagement les \u00c9tats-Unis (lire : la supr\u00e9matie blanche incarn\u00e9e) de leur exclusivit\u00e9 imaginaire en mati\u00e8re d&rsquo;IA, a \u00e9t\u00e9 de tomber dans une petite panique boursi\u00e8re, puis d&rsquo;interroger DeepSeek sur les \u00e9v\u00e9nements de la place Tiananmen, 1989.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Il n\u2019est pas n\u00e9cessaire de faire une analyse historique compl\u00e8te du mouvement de protestation de 1989 en Chine, et je ne suis pas qualifi\u00e9 pour en fournir une. Alors, suivons le r\u00e9cit largement accept\u00e9 et tr\u00e8s g\u00e9n\u00e9ral : les jeunes chinois r\u00e9clamaient plus d\u2019ouverture et de lib\u00e9ralisation ; le gouvernement chinois a refus\u00e9 d\u2019acc\u00e9der \u00e0 leurs demandes, des violences ont \u00e9clat\u00e9 et un certain nombre de personnes (quelques dizaines \u00e0 quelques centaines au total, selon les sources les plus fiables) ont \u00e9t\u00e9 bless\u00e9es et tu\u00e9es.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">La Chine a pris une direction diff\u00e9rente de celle souhait\u00e9e par les manifestants. Et on nous dit (nul autre que nos chers m\u00e9dias g\u00e9nocidaires) que le fait que DeepSeek donne une version des \u00e9v\u00e9nements de 1989 qui ne refl\u00e8te pas la perspective occidentale est une preuve suffisante que la Chine est une triste et mauvaise tyrannie.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Quel dommage que la place Tiananmen n&rsquo;ait pas marqu\u00e9 le d\u00e9but d\u2019une nouvelle Chine, n\u2019est-ce pas ? C\u2019est le r\u00e9cit qu\u2019on nous a racont\u00e9 toute notre vie. Quelle opportunit\u00e9 manqu\u00e9e, n\u2019est-ce pas ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Au contraire, dis-je. Nous avons tellement de chance, si l\u2019on regarde l\u2019histoire, que la Chine ait r\u00e9prim\u00e9 le mouvement de protestation de la place Tiananmen \u00e0 temps.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Imaginez o\u00f9 la Chine et l\u2019humanit\u00e9 seraient aujourd\u2019hui si les \u00c9tats-Unis avaient r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 installer l\u2019\u00e9quivalent chinois du Zelensky ukrainien ou du Al-Jolani syrien \u00e0 P\u00e9kin en 1989 ; pensez au nombre de millions de Chinois qui seraient morts de faim, seraient rest\u00e9s dans la pauvret\u00e9 et auraient perdu la chance de vivre d\u00e9cemment.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Combien de ponts n\u2019auraient pas \u00e9t\u00e9 achev\u00e9s, de routes n\u2019auraient pas \u00e9t\u00e9 pav\u00e9es, de progr\u00e8s sociaux et technologiques n\u2019auraient pas \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9alis\u00e9s, d\u2019usines n\u2019auraient pas \u00e9t\u00e9 ouvertes et de villes, d\u2019\u00e9coles et d\u2019infrastructures publiques n\u2019auraient pas \u00e9t\u00e9 construites et d\u00e9velopp\u00e9es si la Chine avait sombr\u00e9 dans des d\u00e9cennies d\u2019instabilit\u00e9, sans aucun doute utilis\u00e9e par les puissances occidentales pour l\u2019exploiter et la corrompre au-del\u00e0 de toute r\u00e9paration ? <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Alors que la Chine fait des progr\u00e8s incroyables en mati\u00e8re de technologie et de services publics pour son peuple (et, contrairement aux \u00c9tats-Unis, sans d\u00e9truire sa classe ouvri\u00e8re, mais plut\u00f4t en la construisant), nous devrions \u00eatre tr\u00e8s, tr\u00e8s reconnaissants que la Chine ait pris la bonne d\u00e9cision et n\u2019ait pas suivi le chemin de la ruine assur\u00e9e emprunt\u00e9 par d\u2019autres pays \u00ab lib\u00e9r\u00e9s \u00bb et \u00ab d\u00e9mocratis\u00e9s \u00bb par les puissances coloniales occidentales.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">S\u00e9rieusement, imaginez o\u00f9 nous en serions sans contre-pouvoir face \u00e0 l\u2019imp\u00e9rialisme occidental. La Chine en tant que \u00ab d\u00e9mocratie \u00bb du tiers-monde, violente, bris\u00e9e, en conflit interne, approuv\u00e9e par les \u00c9tats-Unis, pouvez-vous imaginer l\u2019horreur ? Vous rendez-vous compte de ce dont ils se sont sauv\u00e9s (et nous avec) ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Oh, et \u00e0 propos de la censure : ce que l\u2019Occident a fait \u00e0 Gaza et \u00e0 propos de Gaza \u2013 le g\u00e9nocide lui-m\u00eame ainsi que l\u2019application, l\u2019intimidation et la coercition dystopiques \u2013 est 100 fois pire que ce que la Chine a fait \u00e0 Tiananmen et \u00e0 propos de lui.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Apr\u00e8s Gaza, aucun pays occidental n\u2019a le droit de critiquer qui que ce soit sur quoi que ce soit dans toute l\u2019histoire. On ne pourra pas l&rsquo;entendre.<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Ils ne s\u2019en rendent pas compte, mais l\u2019\u00e8re de la domination occidentale mondiale est r\u00e9volue. Demandez \u00e0 DeepSeek. Il vous le dira. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Source : <a href=\"https:\/\/alonmizrahi.substack.com\/p\/deepseek-and-tiananmen-square?utm_source=post-email-title&amp;publication_id=2356168&amp;post_id=156145626&amp;utm_campaign=email-post-title&amp;isFreemail=true&amp;r=2xi5tu&amp;triedRedirect=true&amp;utm_medium=email\">Blog Alon Mizrahi<\/a> \/ Traduction MR<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alon Mizrahi, 31 janvier 2025. A moins que vous n&rsquo;ayez dormi au fond des bois, vous n&rsquo;avez pas pu manquer le lancement de DeepSeek, la premi\u00e8re IA de Chine (si <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/index.php\/2025\/01\/31\/deepseek-et-la-place-tiananmen\/\">Lire la suite &rarr;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":18037,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,2],"tags":[430,99],"class_list":["post-18035","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-analyses","category-articles","tag-chine","tag-imperialisme"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>DeepSeek et la place Tiananmen - International Solidarity Movement - ISM-France<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/ismfrance.org\/index.php\/2025\/01\/31\/deepseek-et-la-place-tiananmen\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"DeepSeek et la place Tiananmen - International Solidarity Movement - ISM-France\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Alon Mizrahi, 31 janvier 2025. 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